In this episode of Experience by Design, we welcome Valerie Peck, a thought leader in customer experience (CX), to discuss the current state of CX and its challenges. Valerie shares her insights on whether companies truly care about their customers despite their vocal assurances. The conversation delves into the distinction between creating genuine experiences versus merely pushing products, and the risk of cutting experiential corners in the pursuit of profit. Throughout the discussion, Gary and Valerie emphasize the importance of balancing customer satisfaction with operational efficiency and the challenges CX professionals face in gaining leadership buy-in. They also touch upon the role of employee experience in enhancing customer service and the need for companies to empower their employees. Finally, we discuss the CX reckoning, and what CX means when done right.